Do you also jot down ideas on your mobile?
Yes, but there they simply disappear into the void. I recently tidied up my digital notes again; with many of them, I couldn’t even remember anymore what they were about. With a notebook, it’s completely different; everything has its place, and when it’s full, it’s full. I like that limitation. For the same reason, I’ve gone back to shooting on film again – taking fewer photographs but doing so more deliberately.
You founded Bookie, an app all about reading. Its users meet up for ‘Reading Parties’ to read books together offline. How does that fit together?
It seems like a contradiction: we’re building an app – yet another thing on your mobile – that’s supposed to encourage you to spend less time on your mobile. In our reading circles, people come together, put their phones away and read. Everyone reads individually, yet there is something powerful about sharing the same space. Afterwards, there’s a chance to chat, but at its heart lies quiet, focused reading. And that’s precisely what feels unusual: nothing is happening. You’re unreachable, undistracted, and yet not alone. This combination creates a surprisingly intense experience.
That sounds almost monastic: a place to step away from the constant buzz of digital life.
Exactly. You actively choose to focus, within a community. Much of our daily life takes place online, yet at the same time there is a growing desire for places where that isn’t the case. We see it in the app and at the events: many people are looking for fewer distractions and more focus, more attention, more genuine presence.
Interestingly, you also describe the notebook as a space, a place of retreat.
The notebook is calm, reduced and self-contained. And that is precisely why it is so valuable. Both the notebook and the reading circle are spaces in which less happens – and precisely because of that, more becomes possible. Spaces free from constant external influences.
What does that mean for writing by hand?
Writing with pen and paper is simpler, slower and clearer. It brings me closer to myself, and I find that deeply soothing.